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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Firebones - Latest Comments in Trades with Too Much Complexity</title><link>http://firebones.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://firebones.disqus.com/trades_with_too_much_complexity/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:18:14 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Trades with Too Much Complexity</title><link>http://blog.firebones.com/2009/02/17/trades-with-too-much-complexity/#comment-6422414</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I haven't yet.  I would have avoided a 100% loss on all my USO calls, and probably saved some bad moves with GOOG calls.  What's hard to tell is how many times I would have been stopped out on trades for which I averaged down--I think it probably would have been close to a push.  If I could find a good source of historical bid-ask on options, I could figure it out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A great example is my recent X puts.  I bought a batch at @ 3.10, then another  @ 2.10.  Soon after the second buy, the bid-ask was something like 1.65-1.80 at one point (which would have triggered a 40% stop on the initial batch).  I held, and later sold both lots at 3.10 for a 23% overall gain.  I count that as one win of around 47% on the second batch, and a loss of transaction costs on the second batch.  Had I stopped at 40% loss and ended the same way (i.e., held the 2.10 batch until 3.10), the overall trade would have been an overall -2% loss.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I repeated that pattern several times, averaging down on puts and calls for AMZN, SPY, NDAQ, BBY, etc.  A tighter stop on the X trade would have stopped me out of both trades for a 20% loss.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My strategy would be totally different if holding stocks though, or in times of more normal volatility.  I would then go with tight stops and be satisfied with a 40% win percentage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3:1 is crazy--even factoring out the 15 in a row at the start, it's still about 2:1.  The only thing I can say is that I was short on 85-90% of my trades during a time where there was a 30%+ drop in the market, so execution had little to do with it...it was primarily due to being on the right side of the trends.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">firebones</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:18:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Trades with Too Much Complexity</title><link>http://blog.firebones.com/2009/02/17/trades-with-too-much-complexity/#comment-6418473</link><description>&lt;p&gt;If over 5 months your winners outnumber your losers 3 to 1 that is exceptional! Did you go back and see what your profits would have been with various stop levels or different criteria for closing your positions? &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mandelbrot1</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:55:41 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>